High Ideals and Grunt Work

Everybody laughs when people say, “Won’t someone think of the children!”  But — well, won’t someone?

In other news, The Jerk has been making some noises.  Not just the noises he makes when he eats too much of my disgusting fried chicken, but “I’m almost done with another movie review” noises.   I believe WordPress has decided that there’s no particular reason anyone would want photos on their posts.  Or paragraphs.  But once he gets that straightened out, I feel sure that you will all be edified in the way that you can only be edified by The Jerk.  If you know what I mean.  Did I mention that I woke up at 3 a.m. and that was pretty much the end of my night?



  1. I’ve been having that problem with WordPress too. I thought it was just my own inexpert-ness…

    Jeanne G.

  2. “Because of our high principles, we are going to make sure the kids Catholic Charities serves stay in foster care. Because of our ideals, we are going to prevent the most consistent and effective benefactor of children from finding homes for them. Never mind the nitty gritty! Never mind those messy children with their ugly little physical needs. We’re talking about principles here—we’re talking about high ideals!”

    But couldn’t this argument be turned around on the Church, for its refusal to place children with a gay parents? That because of the Church’s ideals, She’d rather children stay in foster care or orphanages their entire childhood rather than put them in a home with a loving person? I know lots of gay people, some of whom are very good friends of mine, and they are just as capable in my opinion of providing a safe and loving home, even if the Church feels they are sinners (and aren’t all parents sinners, in one way or another?)

    I’m not interested in starting a debate on homosexuality or even whether Catholic Charities should place children in homes that don’t have a husband and wife; I know I won’t convince anyone, and I know well what the Church teaches. But I just wanted to point out that the Church Herself can be seen as putting her ideals over the nitty gritty details like children needing food and shelter.*

    *Unless the Catholic organizations have a 100% success rate in finding a home that meets the Church’s ideals for every single child in their system. Do they?

    • That’s how the argument is usually put forth: the mean old Catholic Church obviously doesn’t care about kids, or else it would just comply. The point is that they’ve BEEN taking care of kids for centuries in this country (filling the gaps that the state’s grotesque mismanagement and incompetence has left), and are suddenly having new restrictions put on them. It’s not as if the Church was serving children, and then suddenly decided to change the rules and kick out everyone who doesn’t want to play along. The system was working just fine, and the state is the one disrupting things.

      Catholic Charities doesn’t reject straight or gay unmarried couples as foster or adoptive parents because they are sinners – she rejects them because she believes the home they provide is not a normal home. Is there such a thing as a perfect home? Of course not. But since the Church is the one with the experience and the actual success under her belt, and the one willing to actually do the work, it’s completely ludicrous for the state not only to mess with that, but to blame the Church for the poor outcome!

      • Oh, I agree the state should not shut down the charities, at least not if there are secular or other charities that can provide adoption services to those the Church won’t; I think there is a colorable claim that there is enough of a religious basis in what they are doing that under the First Amendment they should be able to continue as they have.

      • Very well said Simcha! Charity itself, like welfare programs, was established by the Catholic Church when nobility and kings were unable or unwilling to help the poor. The pro-gay mindset of modern media (which truly are the cause of this unbalanced thinking and doesn’t even reflect the average American opinion), are seriously damaging the foundation of society.

    • Beadgirl,
      You have to remember that Holy Mother Church has an eye on children getting to their eternal home- Heaven- and not just an earthly one. When Christ said in Mark 9:41, “And whosoever shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me; it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and he were cast into the sea.”, He meant it.

      The Church, by keeping children out of homes that are not headed by married couple, is making sure that Christ’s warning is heeded.

  3. I think Simcha could answer this better, but I would like to take a stab at this. Leaving aside the debate about homosexuality, the reason Catholic Charities doesn’t place children in homes of gay couples is because those homes are not as stable and as conducive to the children’s emotional health as homes of married heterosexual couples. This is also the reason why it’s better to place a child with a married couple than an unmarried (straight) couple or with a single person; statistically, children grow up healthiest and happiest with a married mother and father. It’s not because the Church believes that gay people are “sinners;” you’re right that all parents are. It’s because the Church believes–backed up by secular studies–that children will do better in normal households.

    I don’t think the Church has a 100% success rate, but I find it hard to believe, with all the couples out there looking to adopt, that there are lots of children stuck in orphanages because the only couples willing to adopt them are gay.

    • I understand your point (although I disagree with some of it), but my point is that even if one agrees that a home with gay parents is not as stable, it is certainly more stable than no home at all. There are many, many children who never get adopted, all over the world. Some of it is because many couples (by no means all) seeking to adopt only want perfectly healthy white babies, leaving older children, minorities, those with various disabilities, etc. out in the cold. But I’d hate to think that some children are not getting adopted at all because the parents are seen as not good enough (whether because they are gay, or unmarried, or single, or overweight, etc.)

      I will concede I know nothing about the actual numbers, and what percentage of children here in the US (or anywhere else Catholic Charities operates) are never adopted, and what the reasons are for that, and so on.

      • Beadgirl: I see your point but the Church sees it as placing a child in a dysfunctional home (gay home) and it would be better that the child be in a foster home with both a mom and dad instead. Sad that it sounds, it would be worse given the immoralities and psychological difficulties to place a child in a gay home. There are documented cases where children who were placed in such homes had serious problems coping. Anyone who has studied psychology knows the importance of having both a mother and father. Placing a child in a “sick” home, where a disorder is active (remember, the Church views homosexuality as a disorder), would be far worse than them actually having no home. People like to think gay parents are like those on tv, but in truth, these are people suffering a serious disorder which affects their right judgment (if they are actively practicing homosexual lifestyle rather than living chaste lives as the Church asks of them).

    • Rosie is correct about the lack of stability in homosexual relationships, especially male ones. Not to mention a whole slew of medical issues as result of the lifestyle (which can be seen clearly at the CDC site). Anyone who has studied psychology also knows the importance of having both a mother and a father, as role models for the children. This is not just a light aspect of parenthood but a very deep seated biological need that all children require. Of course, circumstances such as death of a parent prevent that proper family unit, but the ideal is a home with both a mother and father. We have seen the seriously negative effects of divorce on children and what ills that has caused society in general. We must always strive for the ideal. For situations where the ideal is not present (such as a widow raising her children), God tells us in the Scriptures, that He will help the widow and orphan. In other words, these are extraordinary circumstances and not the norm, but He will be there for them if they call out to Him. Placing children in gay homes, is an unnatural setting and WILL result in psychological problems, as well as possible relationship problems when they grow up.

  4. And technically speaking, midnight was the end of your night. Waking up at 3 a.m. just means you snuck in three extra hours- lucky!

  5. It should also be remembered that no one is forced to work with Catholic Charities… neither the parents or the birth mother. I’m not really sure where this perception of people only wanting white babies come from. I know several adoptive parents who spent years and thousands if dollars to adopt ANY child… many even adopted severely handicapped children from Russia. There are not orphanages filled with minority children. The lionshare of children in fostercare are on custody disputes… and if anyone is faulting adoptive parents for not wanting to become attached to a child only to have it placed back on am abusive situation (which happens all the time) then you’re not dealing with reality.

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